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June 20, 2009 at 09:44 pm - by desnae2 (9 Posts) | |
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 Does it seem strange, but all the logos that got into the finalist stage were submitted on June second. And all of them use the same color shceme. And they are all very similar. It just seems a bit too fishy. | |
July 17, 2009 at 08:10 pm - by forezt (2 Posts) | |
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Thanks for the informative post, sm2009. It is rather unfortunate that such a vital piece of information was obscured, for the sake of the entrants as well as Minerva, which might have stood to benefit from a pool of entries more akin to what it wanted. Nonetheless I am happy to offer my congratulations to you. I hope the prize money lifts some financial weight off your shoulders, a weight we are all experiencing far too keenly these days. I would also like to thank Minerva for setting up this competition; even without "winning" I have had fun creating my logo and learning more about Inkscape. | |
July 14, 2009 at 02:21 pm - by Syn_Big_Jimbo (13 Posts) | |
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I agree about the color thing - i read and re-read the rules it didn't mention anything about a color scheme. I know we were told to be mindful of colors because they need to be able to be printed either in black or white. But, I can't read what everyone's talking about because I can't find the finalists page. A link would be awesome though! Thanks! | |
July 14, 2009 at 02:19 pm - by Syn_Big_Jimbo (13 Posts) | |
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Where can I see these finalists?? I can't find it anywhere. Hmmm. | |
July 4, 2009 at 03:52 am - by tonyman1106 (8 Posts) | |
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 Also do some reseach and email them a design | |
July 4, 2009 at 03:51 am - by tonyman1106 (8 Posts) | |
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as a garphic arist on worth 1000 i have not just see the winner get pick put people that are like 14/32 get pick it all at client demand. Also i do agree that logo all look simlar and no ones look beyond on the first page. the v desing like in guy person i dont like as a logo i mean it clean but the V is a weird one to use and not the M. Also it pretty easy to cange the color of logo to client demand. | |
June 29, 2009 at 03:43 pm - by canceric09 (10 Posts) | |
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You know, I keep checking the site, holding out that this was some sort of mistake and that Minerva will do something about it. We haven't heard much of anything from them since the submission date... I'm really interested in knowing if they're going to comment on the situation, but I'm starting to doubt they will. The more I think about the strangeness of the selected finalists, the more upset I get, as I know me and many others put way to much effort into our designs, only to have them unfairly overlooked. I don't mean to sound like whiny, but I really want some resolution in all this, for the sake of all the participants. | |
June 29, 2009 at 02:19 pm - by westmocha (8 Posts) | |
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 I do agree with everybody but it certainly is kind of fishy and a bit strange that the finalists who were chosen are only the ones at the end of the contest. As i saw they only picked finalists who submitted on the day the contest ended, even still the contest was extended an extra day when at the last minute a memo was posted in red bold text that the contest would be extended. This to me is definitely fishy. Did they perhaps even take a second to look at some of the other artists/creators who submitted a design at the beginning or the middle of the contest. Hmmm..? Sometimes i do wonder what's going on. Even if the designs as i said that were at the beginning and middle of the contest, and even some at the end that submitted before the extension, didn't have the right colors can definitely be modified and may perhaps have better connection to the company than the finalist or equal connection (idea, wording, etc.). All i want to say is just that either Minerva Surgical Inc. or whoever started/held this contest is not giving the contestants fair oppurtunities. Lastly i don't even think they've looked at all of designs thoroughly! So i guess what happens-happens at this point. Minerva Surgical Inc/Contest Holder, if you could read this, why don't you give everyone a fair chance huh..?.. next time. | |
June 23, 2009 at 08:49 pm - by JamesD31 (3 Posts) | |
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 We can all complain about not being a finalist; hell, I am not satisfied nor very pleased at the moment either since this was a couple thousand dollars passed up that I could have used since college is going to put me in the ___ hole dealing with money that I need. Though, the color scheme I did not read up on, even though I picked a "blue;" - granted all colors can be changed and maybe Minerva should have been notified of this clearly. Though, some designs either, 1) do not even represent any medical reference and just are contemporary and probably if I search Google for some "basic/medical logos" I could draw a few of those designs up as a tutorial; or 2) just are a text, with a gradient, drop shadow and they have a brush in the background.
I can't really say much, and no one really can with the judging and contest being over and the decisions already made. I do enjoy some of the designs made, which do seem to have taken their time in creating - though some just seem to have been thrown together. I appalled the finalists and all others who used the "submit as many as you would like" and used that to their will. I think though that Minerva should have at least "teased" some other submitters instead of picking the same users 50 times (granted sm2009 you did have some good work).
I wish I could say I can't wait to be using one of these logos and working with Minerva on their new website design and incorporating that logo! Though, Minerva apparently found much need into not even replying back, or probably even reading the email I had sent them, regarding my services and their website.
Tough luck for everyone, including myself; some may seem unfair, though still good luck to the finalists. | |
June 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm - by canceric09 (10 Posts) | |
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Actually, I did see the forum post that stated the three colors, but since it said that the colors were not final and did not have to be included, i chose not to. I just feel as thought the design of the finalist logos themselves were as good as other, older ones. And the fact that they were all from the same date just seems way too weird... | |
June 22, 2009 at 08:58 pm - by worldcam (15 Posts) | |
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in one pf the forums, someone asked what the color scheme they wanted was and the orange green blue that most people have are the ones minerva specified. And where can you see the finalist list? | |
June 22, 2009 at 01:00 pm - by sravani (16 Posts) | |
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 agree with you guyz.. its unfair... | |
June 21, 2009 at 11:28 pm - by thealissa (7 Posts) | |
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The color scheme shouldn't have even been an influence in their decision. Colors and fonts are the two easiest qualities to change, and a good design shouldn't be overlooked just because the color isn't correct. | |
June 21, 2009 at 08:49 pm - by Xenocide (9 Posts) | |
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Most of the finalists are decent, even though it is kinda fishy like desnae2 said. I'm still struggling to see how "Minerva Blue Logo" and "Minerva" become finalists... No offense to their creators, but there were plenty of more professional and more creative designs submitted. | |
June 21, 2009 at 12:55 pm - by bwalk9208 (13 Posts) | |
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i agree, frankly a few of the finalists are not very good at all, one of them looks as if it could have been done in paint quite easily and didn't take much time or effort at all. in contrast, if you look at some of the earlier ones like this one: http://www.freshbrain.org/activity/submission/minerva-surgery-inc-logo1.... only does it look professional but its certainly eye catching and very polished. when i saw it i thought it would be a finalist immediately but nope. also, i don't see why they should pick only logos following a certain color scheme because we all know how easy it is to simply change a few colors around. | |
June 21, 2009 at 10:56 am - by sm2009 (22 Posts) | |
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Okay, nevermind, you are right, I just checked and the ones of mbasset's that were picked WERE submitted on Jun 2nd, so all of them were submitted on the 2nd or 1st. Well... I guess I just have to hope that they did look at all of them, some of the ones in the middle and at the beginning were quite good. You guys do have a legitimate concern there... I guess we just have to hope it was a coincidence. I'm grateful to Minerva for offering this to us in the first place and I guess it's their prerogative. | |
June 21, 2009 at 10:12 am - by sm2009 (22 Posts) | |
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Also, another reason that some of the designs are similar is that the people at Minerva probably liked that idea, and so they picked several variations of a similar idea. With so many entries (hundreds!), it was impossible that some of us DIDN'T have similar ideas. If Minerva liked a particular kind, they probably chose different designs that all drew upon the same concept. | |
June 21, 2009 at 10:08 am - by sm2009 (22 Posts) | |
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I guess this might come off as defensive since I am a finalist, but we all used the same color scheme because Minerva DID say that that's what they wanted.
If you look under the Forum, you'll see Topic called "Logo Design Question." In that discussion, HeadBrain has posted this:
"Got a bit of information back from the folks at Minerva ...
We would like them to use their own ideas when they are creating the logo. It should reflect that Minerva is a medical device company and if somehow they can connect the logo with the procedure that would be great.
We have not finalized the corporate colors of Minerva but we are thinking about the following ones:
PMS: 289
PMS: 717
PMS: 554
The logo could be one color or several colors.
Hope that helps! "
So... those of us who read that in the forum obviously went out and picked those colors to use for our designs. Yeah, that information should have probably been posted on the main page, but when it comes down to competition you have to be vigilant and watch for things like that.
That's for the color scheme. As for many of us submitting on June 2nd... I don't know about the others but I'm paranoid about people copying my ideas (even if some of them aren't good), so that's why I waited till the last minute to submit. I think it's just coincidence that some of the designs looked similar, especially one of mine and guyperson's. But thinking of doing something with the "V" in Minerva was a common idea overall.
I agree with you guys that some of the ones that were submitted early on were better than some of ours. But I do think they went through all of them because I know, for example, that mbassett's were submitted in the middle somewhere, and they picked some of his/hers.
I hope that helps explain the answers to some of your concerns... Remember that this was all chance and based on what the company wanted... I was just as surprised as anyone to find out the Finalists, but as one myself I can tell you that there wasn't any "conspiracy" or anything behind it. Sorry if I've upset anyone, but I worked hard on my designs whether you think they're crap or not, and I resent any insinuation that the results so far are somehow unfair even if you don't agree with the tastes and choices of the people at Minerva. | |
June 21, 2009 at 12:34 am - by canceric09 (10 Posts) | |
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Wow... i just saw the finalist entries and it really makes me wonder if they even looked at all the ones that WEREN'T submitted on the last day. I mean, no offense, but some of those are not very well done when seen up close and there were some much better ones that were submitted pretty early in the contest. Very discouraging and quite frustrating... | |
June 20, 2009 at 10:36 pm - by thealissa (7 Posts) | |
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I thought the same thing... If the company had wanted a specific color scheme, they should have mentioned it. It's unfair that other user's entries were not chosen because of something the company failed to put out. | |